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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-16448</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should not be too hard to impliment, maybe the bottom right of the status bar....

For those that know how, the CTRL &amp; + or CTRL &amp; scroll will suffice. Although these functions should be needed very occassionally as if a website has been designed to be accessible then the user should not need to zoom in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should not be too hard to impliment, maybe the bottom right of the status bar&#8230;.</p>
<p>For those that know how, the CTRL &amp; + or CTRL &amp; scroll will suffice. Although these functions should be needed very occassionally as if a website has been designed to be accessible then the user should not need to zoom in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-15456</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mark Gristock. I think the majority of users do not need to change the text size that often so why take up valuable space and in turn making the browser window cluttered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mark Gristock. I think the majority of users do not need to change the text size that often so why take up valuable space and in turn making the browser window cluttered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-13498</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, ctrl+scroll is what I use too.

I do like the idea of minamalistic browsers, although a small &quot;T&quot; would be fine next to the zoom function at the bottom right in IE7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, ctrl+scroll is what I use too.</p>
<p>I do like the idea of minamalistic browsers, although a small &#8220;T&#8221; would be fine next to the zoom function at the bottom right in IE7.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-13411</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue is that not all Web sites have a text re-sizing function, and even if they did, they wouldn&#039;t all work the same.  I believe it should be on the browser&#039;s end to take care of these types of issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue is that not all Web sites have a text re-sizing function, and even if they did, they wouldn&#8217;t all work the same.  I believe it should be on the browser&#8217;s end to take care of these types of issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Brisbane</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-13082</link>
		<dc:creator>Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also use crtl+scroll.

If a site takes accessibility seriously then no doubt they&#039;ll feature some sort of &#039;3T&#039; type option or as I do, create with em&#039;s as my font size - leaving it to the user or browser to increase as they see fit..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also use crtl+scroll.</p>
<p>If a site takes accessibility seriously then no doubt they&#8217;ll feature some sort of &#8217;3T&#8217; type option or as I do, create with em&#8217;s as my font size &#8211; leaving it to the user or browser to increase as they see fit..</p>
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		<title>By: r0bin</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-12943</link>
		<dc:creator>r0bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use ctrl+scroll to change the text size in my browser. But a small button in the status bar would be more useful ofcourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use ctrl+scroll to change the text size in my browser. But a small button in the status bar would be more useful ofcourse.</p>
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		<title>By: bon</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-12897</link>
		<dc:creator>bon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, I meant &quot;down in the status bar&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, I meant &#8220;down in the status bar&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: bon</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-12896</link>
		<dc:creator>bon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think IE7&#039;s zoom menu down in the taskbar is a very good (and fairly standardised) place to put to page zoom controls. It&#039;s obvious enough to spot at a glance, yet it stays out the way. Much better than having it up in the toolbar.

On a vaguely related note, I do wish IE7 would default to text zooming and not full page zooming. It looks like Firefox 3 might follow this trend too. What a nightmare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think IE7&#8242;s zoom menu down in the taskbar is a very good (and fairly standardised) place to put to page zoom controls. It&#8217;s obvious enough to spot at a glance, yet it stays out the way. Much better than having it up in the toolbar.</p>
<p>On a vaguely related note, I do wish IE7 would default to text zooming and not full page zooming. It looks like Firefox 3 might follow this trend too. What a nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel Pedley</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-12764</link>
		<dc:creator>Mel Pedley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average vanilla desktop browser install has around 6 top level menu items (e.g File, Edit, Help etc). Given the size of screens these days, I don&#039;t see how the addition of 1 or 2 extra - and undoubtedly useful - options would hurt. If you&#039;re technically-minded enough to want a stripped down interface, re-configure the primary toolbar to remove them. At least, that way, the changes can be made by those with the technical skills/confidence to do so.

@Vince: I&#039;ve been driving and owning cars for 20 years. Still don&#039;t know how to tune an engine. That&#039;s what mechanics are for. Unless, of course, you think that all learner divers should be able to carry out basic engine disassembly and re-assembly before they can pass their driving test?

@Anthony: I&#039;m right behind you on the pleas to the browser gods. It&#039;s ridiculous that such useful functionality is hidden away in 3rd level sub-menus. Not sure about the use of &quot;3T&quot; though. As a conceptual symbol, it doesn&#039;t mean a thing to me and I do use Office applications pretty regularly. Personally, I&#039;d just like to see something like &quot;Zoom In&quot; and &quot;Zoom Out&quot; or similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average vanilla desktop browser install has around 6 top level menu items (e.g File, Edit, Help etc). Given the size of screens these days, I don&#8217;t see how the addition of 1 or 2 extra &#8211; and undoubtedly useful &#8211; options would hurt. If you&#8217;re technically-minded enough to want a stripped down interface, re-configure the primary toolbar to remove them. At least, that way, the changes can be made by those with the technical skills/confidence to do so.</p>
<p>@Vince: I&#8217;ve been driving and owning cars for 20 years. Still don&#8217;t know how to tune an engine. That&#8217;s what mechanics are for. Unless, of course, you think that all learner divers should be able to carry out basic engine disassembly and re-assembly before they can pass their driving test?</p>
<p>@Anthony: I&#8217;m right behind you on the pleas to the browser gods. It&#8217;s ridiculous that such useful functionality is hidden away in 3rd level sub-menus. Not sure about the use of &#8220;3T&#8221; though. As a conceptual symbol, it doesn&#8217;t mean a thing to me and I do use Office applications pretty regularly. Personally, I&#8217;d just like to see something like &#8220;Zoom In&#8221; and &#8220;Zoom Out&#8221; or similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gristock</title>
		<link>http://designbit.co.uk/2008/05/30/web-browser-usability-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-12678</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gristock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the fundamental question is (if this is a usability issue) how often do you need to change the text size on your browser. If the answer for most people is frequently, then you are probably right. If it&#039;s very occasionally, then it makes no sense at all to have it in the main tool bar. In this case, the most appropriate solution is asking you what default text size you want when you install the browser. 

Alternatively, as the needs of designers and developers are fundamentally different to most users, you might want the facility to create your own bespoke toolbar. But saying something should be in the main toolbar just because you want it, isn&#039;t really usability as I understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the fundamental question is (if this is a usability issue) how often do you need to change the text size on your browser. If the answer for most people is frequently, then you are probably right. If it&#8217;s very occasionally, then it makes no sense at all to have it in the main tool bar. In this case, the most appropriate solution is asking you what default text size you want when you install the browser. </p>
<p>Alternatively, as the needs of designers and developers are fundamentally different to most users, you might want the facility to create your own bespoke toolbar. But saying something should be in the main toolbar just because you want it, isn&#8217;t really usability as I understand it.</p>
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